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Of coarse! You should see more updated videos this video is old. If the video is more than a year old, then its not current. Even this video Im linking is old now. the 2025 model comes out in October. ua-cam.com/video/c3w_s-3p5ek/v-deo.html

@@Thrive-Off-Grid good then. is it any trouble from using inverter generator?

Yeah it will make manufacture too complicated and it would not work or change anything. I solve this issue already anyways. It was steam crashing. the steam from the tank was too much and steam crashing the unit. Im just venting out ot the tank now. You dont lose that much and its not worth trying to reclaim it.

Yeah thats why my machines are charcoal. The gas is as clean LP or NG. These are not wood gasifiers they are charcoal. I spent 8 years chasing wood gasification and become a world leader in small scale systems. I abandoned my pride, ego and that tech in 2020 and I will never ever go back. Charcoal gasification is the only way to run small engines under 1000cc. Wood gasification will only work on large engines with robust vavle tranes that can tollerate tars and soots. Otherwise it will destroy a small engine in a heart beat. There is no such thing as a tar free wood fueled gasifier. Murphy's Law; if it can happen it will!

@@Thrive-Off-Grid Thank you so much for the reply! I'm definitely looking into your product!!!!

what do you think Im running it from? You can alos run it directly off a 12 volt battery with a 20 dallor 400 watter inverter. AC makes better sense than a weak 12 volt blower that will take a month to get the machine up and running.

Yeah stand back when you open the lid everytime and always give it few second before ever looking in there. Sometimes there is a delay.

Its already is; The Gasifier has nothing to do with the output. That is on the generator side it can only output so much on syngas. If you need more power get a bigger generator. As for reliability the CFX is as good as it gets. It already is a reliable machine Ive demonstriaghted this here in the video and countless other videos. The issue I had on this run I found that I had the air compressor plugged in and it was on. Its stored in the shed you see behind the generators and I think it was trying to fire up. Otherwise the CFX fueling the 459cc Lifan power generators can typically output 2500 watts sustaining continouose. Thats actually already pushing the technology to its limits. Others cant do this.

Bare in mind regardless if you charge at 3 kW or 2 kW at the end of the day the BTU value of the hopper charge is the same. So your total net kW/hours are going to be roughly the same. Its better to run at a more reserved output rather than pushing it to the edge where you have to constantly fiddle it. Take what the machine will give and dont be greedy. Your gasifier wont like that.

You can ask some of the commenters here as well. They have early models and they run thier machines.

I will for the 2024 CFX prevouse machines can not be upgraded as the interface is 1" NPT. This requires a minimum 1 1/4" interface. You are lucky as you have the DFX S4 that is the only version pre CFX that has this interface. The 2025 CFX will have a 1 1/2" interface So it will have the ability for a larger version for teaming and setting for larger engine applications. I will only offer the upgrade upon request and it wont be cheap as it will be special order and they are a bit to do. Machining SS is a royal pain in the ars! Plus the parts are $100 bucks. So shop labor plus parts is going to put this around $300 bucks.

@@Thrive-Off-GridYeah, I get it. Material costs have soared over the past year or so. I picked up the black iron pipes at Lowes for this conversion and the cost was $50 ! If I were to build another chip machine with all the plumbing, the material costs would probably be in the thousands. Crazy !

A sustaining flare is actually not typical with charcoal and with this years CFX the flare cup is shorter than prevouse models. Ive only ever been able to get to sustain one time and that the first video I did with it and the very first time running the CFX. Im sure I could run the blower and get it to sustain it was actually almost doing it tonight. However that blower is only there to get that machine lit and started. I dont push these blowers as they are expensive. So dont get them hot,

The generator was just ran out of gasoline, I think there was just enough gasline left over to get it going. Yeah generally they dont start that easy espeacialy when I have a camera pointed at it.

Yeah just discovered I left the air compressor on. That is why I couldnt pull the load at the end. It was trying to fire up.

Because that is the point of the water injection. If you dont do water injection then you use EGR. EGR only cools the reaction it does not have the benfit of the water shift. If you do both it will run too cool and the gasiifer wil crash.

Been doing it everyday for almost two years no problems yet

I havent had time to work on it and there no imediate need for it. So its on the back burner. I dont think its going to work anyways.

It looked kinda cool. What's not going to work? What I want is one that can be reversed and used as an electric starter for the smaller generators that don't have starters.

@@rolc8272 The alignment between the rotar and stator are not accurate enough. The magnets are already cracked and it rubbed pretty bad.

Yeah that taper is a real pain. If you order engine from China they have tapers. Must be a standard for them. My thought is to machine the rotor to a straight bore and mount it that way as a hub.... I am sure it's not as easy. Only other idea is to build a jig or reverse reamer to bolt on the eng and make a taper on the existing shaft. But probably not enough meat.....

@@rolc8272 If I were to produce this kit. Id have a machine shop make these parts. posibly get the housing adapter plate cast ouf of aluminum and then have it machined. I think there is a huge market for it. But Id need an investor and they are only looking out for themselfs. Its hard to find the right money.

Yeah did what you sugested with adding that tube to the water tank valve. That seemed to fix that plus this nozzle dont have a tube end where surface tension can build. So I got good consistant flow now.

Do a video when you get it working so people can see. This is actually a pretty big break through and evens the playing field between wood fuel and Charcoal gasification. We are now on the verge of water becoming the primary or at the very least an equal fuel input. I ran the numbers last night and it didnt boil off the water in the tank as much as I thought. Most of it was actually processed. I think once I get pipe that steam in the water tank the BTU each fuel provides will be 50/50 I on the threshold where water will be the primary BTU producer in the machine.

These are the check valves I have in aluminum. www.amazon.com/dp/B09C7V67HB?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

@@Thrive-Off-Grid I got a peek of the aluminum check valve valve and figured it could be found on Amazon. Yup, ordered a hand full of them because I'm guessing the valve inside might be plastic and prone to a melt down. But hey ! this is a real break through in my book. Imagine ! running on water as the fuel source. Be careful, uncle might not like your innovative spirit. Thanks for keeping us up to date.

@@nhhbbyloggr5022 Yeah I was thinking that this morning and this is actually real and works. lol

@@Thrive-Off-Grid 7/30/24 finally blocked out a few hours to fabricate your new nozzle design. The most difficult part of the conversion was forming the new water line from the tank to the nozzle. Oh one more thing, I found that a .22 cartridge presses into the tank valve adding a little height so that the sediments don't block the valve. Have to had time to test any of it yet but that will wait until another day.

Do you have solar? If not you need to get solar first this is not the answer and no gasifier is. This is for solar back up only. Can it be done yes! Would it be practial to make that much fuel everyday? Absolutely not!! Get solar first make charcoal at your leazure and not becuase you have too. It will become a chore after while and there will be times you just cant make it. You may get sick, weather may not cooperate, etc. However you can team the units and you can also team the inverter generators. Thats wjhy I have two when we need extra power we run both and they sync together. We can run one on the gasifier and the other on gasoline. Or run both on two teamed gasifiers or run them sepperate.

@@Thrive-Off-Grid no not yet.. I just have a ton of wood. I don’t know what to do with it all :) I know I need to do solar first.. but I want to make sure I do my fair share of contributing to climate change :)

I love the process you have been making. It’s good stuff..

@@bradmesserle999 Ok good just making sure. One thing you find here I dont push un realistic expectations of the technology and try to show it for what it is.

@@Thrive-Off-Grid yea I appreciate that..

Yeah no filters. If you need heavy filtration you dont have a consumer product. That machine had crazy insulation it was not viable to mass produce.

@Thrive-Off-Grid awesome, that's right. Only a signal dust filter en a water condenser should be necessary . Again I've only seen a hand ful of gasiffiers that make such a clean flame 🔥 en your one of them, feel free to check out my machiene if you have time . Greetings

@@oscarverwey there is no such thing as a tar free wood gasifier and there never will be. Its why Ive abondoned the tech and will only ever support charcoal systems. Charocal holds way more promise especially for CHP. Use the charcoaling process for heat and hot water and use the charcoal for engine grade fuel for back solar generator power. Its better technolody and producing charcoal is by far easier than producing engine grade wood fuel. Its not easy or viable especially if used daily you willl never dry fuel fast enough to keep up and its a lot more work than most realize.

@Thrive-Off-Grid alright, if you say so, it must he impossible

@@oscarverwey The key to producing charcoal in a retort is using seasoned wood that is sized constantly for the retort. Fire that retort with garbage wood pine and waste pallets and other wood waste. Its actually more eficient because you cant use that waste wood in a wood gasifier either. We really need to change the perspective. Charcoal systems are simple, they run 100% stable and reliable, unlikely to ever produce tar, far FAR less maintenance and are more econimical to produce and manufacture. Wood gas system are the contrary in every aspect and just a big headache. Im so glad to be done with that devleopment never ever again not for me anyways. Im done with it and learned those lessons the hardway. You dont have to learn that way. This is the easy road and I paved it for you.

Why would you want to run wood? Charcoal is actually easier and it wont tar up your engine.

You are not loosing energy in charcoaling process. You can use your retort to heat plus hot water production. The water Steam boiler nozzle is putting all the losses right back into the unit. A wood gasifier will lose 30% or greater in its reaction where a charcoal gasifier the water injection is putting 35% back in. At small scale the wood fuel must be 100% dry or it will produce tar, that will require a kiln especially in colder climates. Winter time forget it. Wood fuel gasifiers will never ever run stable like a charcoal system like demontstrated here not even with automation. I built wood fueled systems for 8 years before I finally built the these charcoal systems. I am one theee most advanced devs in this space. Wood fuel gasification is junk and it dont work. Wood fuel system are best for larger inline 4 cyl to V8 engine applications. They must be large enough to flow and the application must be large enough to drive the unit to tar cracking temps. Small engines are not capable of this and a small scale wood gasifier will not flow.

@Thrive-Off-Grid I like your design:) I believe using al the energy in the fuel is more efficient, right? So yes, en no . I believe What did is even more efficient replicating the 2 stage viking gasiffier from denmark. The results are really astonishing. In a nutshell its running a charcoal maker on the exhaust gasses of the engine . That makes super heated steam ,charcoal en tar gas . Before the reduction zone the tar is al burned en al the stuff is reduced to perfectly tar free blue gas flame

@Thrive-Off-Grid even with 30% to 35% Moisture it sustained a perfectly bleu flame in the raw gas . Because most work is done by the producer gas en exhaust gas heat around the heated screw feeder en hopper funnel. It has a hopper of about 270l, so about 60-70kg per run with 1.2 kw/h /kg that's gonna give quite some energy. Even on a small engine with 1 to 1.5 kw load, it does perfectly fine 🙂 most i got out of it is 5 kw to this day . That's on a modified 7kw diesel generator

scavanging every callory = high complexity= more stuff to break= way less user freindly. KISS!! and unless there are videos of it like I show I wouldnt buy into it. Dont miss the point here this CFX with this nozzle is extremly efficient. A wood gasifiert cant touch it even with the losses in charcoal process. This machine can net 8 kW / hours on just 10 lbs of fuel. Water is also a fuel imput you cant do that with a wood gasifier. You dont have to waste anything in the charcoaling process, Use it to heat your home, use it for hot water prodcuction. Producing wood fuel is not free the equipment dont run on air. Charcoal fuel prep is nothing more than cutting and splitting fire wood. If you run a a wood chipper with a gasifier you are only going to net 50% you are going to burn 50% to make the fuel. There is no free lunch only a massive head ache. Might want to spend some time our forum and read our history thread. We are way beyond novice builders that are on the market now.

Yaeh Im sure it would. Early machines were equipped with a port to instal a probe. But I eliminated it last year

Yeah that retort I made for the shop works great and that is the plan here as well. I was thinking of getting that SS flex hose used for natural gas hook up to coil arounjd the retort for hot water production.

Nothing better than having your own wood gas

Its a prototype production version will be stainless along with water tank and a few other components since will be stocking SS sheet.

That is what this is replacing its already proven its far supperiour. 2 liters of water was the max with evap drip. this can process 4 ltrs and that is a big deal because this make it more efficient than a wood fuel gasifier. The clogs are from rust from the steel. The solution is switching the SS.

Not to mention it did fix the flow with exception of the rust and the clogging. But we can fix that so that dont happen.

@@Thrive-Off-Grid I had a water hose on mine. It was directly heated through a copper coil I wound around the core which was reduced to a small dripping. It was an immense increase of power to the engine. Unfortunately I had to stop my gasifier works since my e-filters clogged up so fast that I have to find a new method or better a cleaner burn.

@@ravelkoff3549 Are you doing this with a wood fueled gasifier? With charcoal you only need to clean the dust out. That little ammo box with the scrubby pads works great!! Believe me Ive tried all sorts of crazy and very complex systems for wood fueled systems. Its not worth the complexity. Charcoal is by far supperiour technology and we are going make it better more useful than wood fueled systems.

@@Thrive-Off-Grid Yepp. I had the imagination being able to combine wood drying, coking and gasification in one machine. Bad idea to try this in downdraft mode ;) There is a complex updraft type which is able to. But up to today I found no time to begin with.

This one was a group discution so not totally my idea. But had thought of this for long time. Just decided to give a try. So far its showing a great deal of promise.

@@Thrive-Off-Grid Let me know how the follow-up run goes. I drained the water out of ours for the winter when it was brand new and it was like brown mud coming out of the tank. I'm guessing the tank was contaminated to begin with. Hope you do a follow up video. Thanks for the show !

@@nhhbbyloggr5022 Nope that is normal you do have to flush the tanks from time to time. You can add motor oil to the water it will add a layer on a top and coat the walls as the water is consumed. If you dont drain it out complete it will stay in there. Just add more water and it will creat that top again and repeat

@@nhhbbyloggr5022 If I go to this new style jet, we will build it and the water tank out of SS :( I hate stainless steel especially plasma cutting it. It sucks to clean up the edges after cutting. But it will be worth it, this test after I was able to evaluate is showing some pretty big promise. This is probably one of the biggest break throughs in small scale systems Ive ever seen. The good news for you is your machine has the 1 -1/4" input coupler so you can upgrade or make one yourself. I think with the wick being removed it will be fine.

@@Thrive-Off-Grid I seem to remember you up grading the injection nozzle deeper into the charcoal to get a more even burn ( the older type nozzle ) Does this new idea extend further into the coal bed, too? What is the OAL of the pipe? Also is your new upgrade feeding water into the pipe through the side or bottom ? Great idea . The old style was a bit finicky so this seems to be a winner.

Whats a " blue " flame got to do with anything? I chased that for five years until I finaly learned; You can not determine gas composition by flare color. Hydrogen does not burn blue unless its lab grade. CO will burn blue but only if its by itself. CH4 will burn purple, H2S produced in a gasifier burns orange not blue. Black carbon / tar burn solid yellow. A typical clean flare from a wood gasiifer will range from orange to violet with a blue base and air mixture can change the color as well. Ive been doing this for 12 years this is what I do for a living and have built some of the most advanced machines that exist today. Anyone telling you thier gasifier is creating a blue flare 100% of the time is yanking your chains and trying to part you with your money.

@@Thrive-Off-Grid I'm just concerned about putting crap into the engine. And have to tear down the engine every few months.

@@sjf67gto Yeah thats why I no longer will ever offer a wood gasifier for small engines. Last year I gave it another go with wood fuel (hence the video you are watching here) and by the end of the year I decided to abandon wood fuel. Charcoal is the only way. Burn that junk out and refine the fuel first. These machines run far more stable, tar is very unlikely and the gas is clean. The DFX-10 and any counter part has been discontinued this year. The 2024 CFX charcoal gasifier is the only machine I offer and am concluding the development for small engine gasification. Its an awesome machine and I just cant make it any better. Although I am going to experiment with a new jet nozzle to increase the water cracking capability. The 2024 CFX has a 30/60 ratio. 30% of the gas energy density is produced from the water alone. For every 10 gallons / 10 lbs of charcoal the machine can crack 2 liters of water. Im hopefull this new boiler jet will introduce more steam production while deluting the amount of atmosphere allowed into the machine. This should increase the energy density of the gas making it more powerful while making it more efficient< less charcoal required to produce "X" amount of net output. Currently 10 gallons of charcoal wiil net around 5 kW / hours charging. Yeah charcoal is also easier than wood fuel. You will never keep up with fuel drying if ran on a daily basis. Not everyday is 80 and sunny and the winter time in the north might as well forget it.

nope I will never ever producea wood gasifire for small engine aplications ever again. It dont work.

Hmm sorry I missed your questions, UA-cam does not always notify us on all comments. You can purchase the CFX RTR here this is the only prodcut I offer. www.thriveoffgrid.net/m-3-utility-gasifier

@@Thrive-Off-Grid cool.. youtube i also use to not get notices... they blew up my big channel 7 years ago ... thanks im going to look now and get with the wife for our off grid home ...

There are over 12 years of videos on this channel. Plus I am an active member on the Drive On Wood forum with our entire history documented there. I have nothing to prove to you or anyone. These videos are generally un editted and Im pretty much the only one anywhere actually showing the technology working for exteneded periods of time. You should take a drive over to the actual channel and view our video library. In fact in this video I litterally show you the welder. When ever that generator is running our EG4 is pulling a load to charge our betteries as well. This is no scam I am a world leader in this space and sell over 100 units a year. I am one of the most accomplished developers you are ever going to find in this space. There are videos in our library showing our tech under load please visit our channel and our video library.

www.youtube.com/@Thrive-Off-Grid/videos

Read our bio, if after reading that you think something is fishy here then there is nothing I can say, do or show you otherwise. Yeah our tech is real and it works as we claim. www.thriveoffgrid.net/forum/general-discussions/our-history-and-how-we-developed-to-today

I will watch the videos you linked to. Thank you.

The bolts seal fine with out any sealant. We keep veryu tight tollerances on the bolt hole sizes compared to the bolts. After the bolt is tight it is sealed plenty.

?? these videos are free Im not making anything on these videos. The parts list is in the video, if you need a parts list for this you shouldnt be messing with a gasifier in the first place.

This video series is to show you the basic concept of our cross flow design. It is not recommended to replicate this as is. Build this out of stuff that is more robust and build it larger. That will require you to source what ever parts you can make work. There are no rules that you must use the parts Im using. This is the concept only.

Sure but why? Much easier to just skip chipping and put your fuel directly in the retort. It will break apart on its own reguardless you have to screan the fuel.

@@Thrive-Off-Grid Where I live, you can get truckloads of free woodchips. No need pay for gas to haul logs, no need to cut chunks to fit to fit into the barrel.

@@williambronson2935 That works then, we have chips here as well but I have not tried running them yet. I think they may reduce to far but wont know for sure until we try :)

We run it all day everyday. Ill be installing the one I just built in the shop for next winter

Yeah those were a pain in the butt, this is easier and more efficient